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Astros Sign Stealing Video Footage Megathread (For Complete Community Transparency on the Astros Stealing Signs Scandal)
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First reported by The Athletic on Tuesday Nov. 12 in this article, it was revealed by at least 4 internal sources in the Astros organization (including former player Mike Fiers) that the Astos "stole signs during home games in real time with the aid of a camera positioned in the outfield."
Sign stealing in baseball is common (Usually sign stealing is done by a runner on second base that has a perfect view of home plate, or sometimes teams are able to recognize a pitcher is tipping pitches and can thus know or have an idea of what pitches to expect); but the Astros allegedly used illegal technology to gain an unfair advantage over opposing pitchers and teams during the 2017 season. The Astros used a television monitor that streamed the opposing catcher's signs live that was positioned in the tunnel between the Astros dugout and clubhouse; once they were able to decipher the signs, they would bang trash cans to signal to their batters what pitch may be coming. More recently, it's been alleged that they used whistling (usually extended, to the tune of "Charge", or otherwise distinctive from fan whistling) to signal to their batters as well. At this point, its plausible to say that this sign stealing had great effect on the Astros' winning the World Series in 2017 and making it to the World Series in 2019. If a batter can anticipate a fastball or slider and not the nasty 12-6 curve, they have a much greater chance of hitting it out of the park.
Needless to say, baseball is in a dark place right now.
This thread is necessary to maintain bipartisan discussion of the phenomenon that has shocked and will no doubt catalyze great change to baseball. Removing it would show partisan motives and a threat to worldwide baseball democracy.
This thread was
This thread is dedicated to those of you putting in hard time and effort to find evidence of Astros wrongdoings during the 2017 season. I've included a list of videos below that demonstrate the Astros stealing signs using their purported illegal methods. Please feel free to add links and I will update this list.
Please also consider using these links as a starting point to restart this discussion in other baseball subreddits. Also, I’ve noticed many YouTube videos of full Astros games have been flooded with comments of Timestamps of banging and whistling. It’s magnificent, please don’t stop.
Note: All video is 2017 unless otherwise noted. Postseason videos have been bolded.
UPDATE: This MADLAD decoded the Astros whistling signal relaying in the 2017 postseason: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Z5FRPPogM&feature=youtu.be
UPDATE:: Pictures of the Astros setup to relay signs to batters have been leaked on Twitter, link here: https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1196203106347945987?s=20
UPDATE: Puig knew: https://twitter.com/alexuustatus/1196150837728251904?s=20
UPDATE: Jomboy released an update that mentioned our thread, and summarized the state of the scandal here: https://youtu.be/I9up10jsW1c
UPDATE: The Athletic released an article that included an email from a front office executive asking team scouts to find potential ways to steal signs. Article here: https://theathletic.com/1374774/2019/11/16/astros-executive-asked-scouts-for-help-stealing-signs-and-suggested-using-cameras-email-shows/?source=shared-article
UPDATE: Ken Rosenthal reported on twitter that investigations are moving quickly and MLB investigators are already interviewing players, including Mike Fiers. Reddit thread discussing that here. Twitter link here
UPDATE: Sean Doolittle noticed us! https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1195155811305185280?s=20
UPDATE: A new Baseball Prospectus Article came out that goes over the effect of the sign stealing on game audio data. Goes to show that MLB has the data they need to fully investigate and discipline the Astros.
Annotated 25 Minute Supercut of Sign Stealing (Banging Only). Courtesy of u/chiguy2387 : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUkJeko0QGE&amp;amp;utm_source=share&amp;amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;amp;utm_name=iossmf
Annotated Video Compilation of much of the 2017 Footage Courtesy of u/TRKillShot : https://youtu.be/UVvnMIbk5SQ
Annotated Video Compilation of whistles in 2017 WS Game 5 ONLY courtesy of Twitter and thanks to u/EmmettRapaportNBA for linking it: Twitter Link Streamable
Aledmys Diaz vs. NYY (2019 ALCS Game 2): (https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1195094162816806914 Thanks to Jomboy. Whistling)
Yordan Alvarez vs TEX (2019: https://youtu.be/3NHC8ZO7GmQ?t=9142 (Timestamp is 2:32:35, distinctive whistle before slider; Thanks to u/themapster96)
Alex Bregman vs. OAK (2019): https://streamable.com/5epnu (Thanks to u/CaramelPhD; another 2019 Whistle)
Carlos Correa vs. LAA (2) (2019): https://streamable.com/khjsa and https://streamable.com/0lc9v (Thanks to u/CaramelPhD; apparent whistling before both of Correa’s homers)
Yuli Gurriel vs. WSH (2019 World Series) (https://streamable.com/v3wgu) (Thanks to u/CaramelPhD; whistle after sign is put down for slider)
Yuli Gurriel vs. LAD (2017 World Series Game 3): https://youtu.be/iEwuG9TbBEo#t=55s (Timestamp 0:55; charge whistle before slider is crushed to left; Thanks to u/Charthwrewy)
Yuli Gurriel vs. LAD (2017 World Series Game 5): https://youtu.be/rCcvPg49UaQ#t=14m10s (Timestamp 14:10; charge whistle before game-tying home run is hit off a slider; Thanks to u/Charthwrewy)
Yuli Gurriel vs. BOS: https://youtu.be/MXwQVvpyPrY?t=6174 (Timestamp 1:42:55; banging before curveball; Thanks to u/5under6)
Yuli Gurriel vs. TOR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkwjm2oglGw&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;t=1195 (Timestamp 19:50; Pitch 1 - Slight bang, takes changeup, Pitch 2 - Audible bang, takes another changeup, Pitch 3 - No bang, 2 run BOMB; Thanks to u/TBRunGood)
Yuli Gurriel vs. TB: https://youtu.be/QvwkaKHUNYw?t=11466 (Timestamp at 3:11:05, thanks to u/OnsenCannonball)
Jose Altuve vs. ATL https://youtu.be/zGZbOV103Y8?t=8425 (Thanks to Braves and u/pilade100) (“Starts at the 2:20:25 mark. During Altuve's at-bat, you can clearly hear the whistling for the offspeed pitches and silence for the fastballs. You can also hear whistling in the final pitches of the previous at-bat against Carlos Beltran (Jason Motte even steps off after hearing a whistle).”)
Jose Altuve vs LAD (2017 World Series Game 5): https://youtu.be/h8Oo87L3U2s?t=1110 (Timestamp 18:30; The same "Charge" whistle in back to back pitches, first is a slider (that's crushed just foul), then is a fastball that Altuve hits for a HR; thanks to u/RedfishSC2)
Jose Altuve vs BOS: https://youtu.be/m01FQIxgTv0 (Timestamp of 1:25:35, thanks to u/MikeInRevere)
Brian McCann: vs. CWS: https://www.baseballprospectus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Brian-McCann-9_21_17-1.mp4?_=1
Evan Gattis vs. Seattle: https://www.baseballprospectus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/9_16_17-Gattis.mp4?_=2
Evan Gattis vs. BOS: https://youtu.be/m01FQIxgTv0?t=2379 (Timestamp @ 39:52; thanks to u/MikeInRevere)
Evan Gattis vs. BOS: https://youtu.be/m01FQIxgTv0?t=8125 (Timestamp @ 2:15:25; thanks to u/ModernDayDevil)
Jake Marisnick vs. Seattle: https://www.baseballprospectus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/7_18_17-Marisnick.mp4?_=3
Carlos Correa vs. NYY: https://www.baseballprospectus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/7_1_17-Correa.mp4?_=4
Marwin Gonzalez vs. NYY: https://www.baseballprospectus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/7_1_17-Gonzalez.mp4?_=5
Marwin Gonzalez vs. Seattle: https://youtu.be/eidimOhlMo4?t=9796
Marwin Gonzalez vs. WSH: https://youtu.be/2-vKmzaA9ms (Timestamp: 2:13:23, bangs before all three Curveballs; Thanks to u/024yarbyarb, u/MockPederson and Nationals)
George Springer vs. NYM: https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp4/2017/09/03/1805524483/1504468999126/asset_2500K.mp4
George Springer vs. BOS: https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp4/2017/06/18/1511215483/1497760373382/asset_1800K.mp4?utm_source=share&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;utm_name=iossmf (Timestamp of banging is 0:50; thanks to u/MooCanoe)
George Springer vs. MIN: https://youtu.be/-8_wyWjXTE0?t=9602 (Timestamp 2:40:04; thanks to u/Sheepies123)
Alex Bregman vs. Toronto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h8iCp005rg&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;t=12299 (Game-tying triple and then a walkoff, bangs before both (Thanks to u/stv7)) (Also, an entire thread dedicated to this game found here)
Alex Bregman vs. WSH (2019 World Series Game 6): https://gfycat.com/imaginarynecessaryheifer (Distinctive whistling before pitch, annotated; Thanks to u/SLR107FR-31)
Alex Bregman vs. LAD (2017 World Series Game 5): https://v.redd.it/cf697fjctdy31 (Thanks to u/MockPederson)
Alex Bregman vs. CHC (2019) https://youtu.be/47nXoT6OATg (Very loud whistle right after the sign just before Bregman’s 2nd hr of the day. And the game winner)
Alex Bregman vs. OAK https://youtu.be/6YBmiPHrbHE (Timestamp 2:39:30, thanks to u/NukeFizzix)
Alex Bregman vs LAD (2017 WS ROAD GAME):https://youtu.be/8iSuOA8P-9w?t=5813 Timestamp 1:36:53; AND https://youtu.be/8iSuOA8P-9w?t=6923 Timestamp 1:55:23; Thanks to u/youreawinner_barry)
Carlos Beltran vs. CWS: https://v.redd.it/9jb6qsq0wjy31 (Beltran too, two bangs before a curve and one before a change (Thanks to u/RealPutin))
Carlos Beltran vs. TBR: https://youtu.be/QvwkaKHUNYw?t=2573 (Timestamp at 42:53 Thanks to u/CanuckDude22)
Carlos Beltran vs. SEA: https://youtu.be/WTsHakP381M?t=9921 (Timestamp at 2:45:21 Thanks to u/Sheepies123)
Multiple vs. SEA: https://www.reddit.com/baseball/comments/dw1u4g/astros_sign_stealing_video_footage_megathread_fof7g8b6t?utm_source=share&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;utm_medium=web2x (Very comprehensive comment thread. Thanks to u/ROTY_Mitch_Haniger and u/Polskinator)
Multiple vs. BAL: https://www.reddit.com/orioles/comments/dwcge8/proof_of_the_astros_stealing_signs_with_a_camera/ (Comprehensive reddit thread that goes over many instances of sign stealing in a single game. Thanks to Orioles and u/Baseballkev219)
Multiple vs. NYY (2017 ALCS): https://www.reddit.com/NYYankees/comments/dwsd5v/watch_the_astros_cheat_their_asses_off_against/ (Another comprehensive reddit thread that goes over many instances of sign stealing in a single game. Thanks to NYYankees &amp;amp; u/RollofDuctTape )
Multiple vs. CHC (Spring Training): https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;t=2h21m10s&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;v=GQqZsePcu0k&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;utm_source=share&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;utm_name=iossmf (2:21:00 and 52:38; thanks to u/SHARKbait988)
Alex Bregman vs ARI (Base steal): http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp4/2017/08/17/1734766483/1502930877588/asset_1200K.mp4 (Bregman steals second. Two bangs are heard, Walker throws an 86 mph changeup, Bregman takes off for second. Thanks to u/ChudzCannz)
Major Update: https://twitter.com/trevorplouffe/status/1195064380620066817?s=21
From Trevor Plouffe and Backed by Jomboy: "Anybody curious to know how the Astros relayed signs in the 2017 WS when banging a trash can (📷) couldn’t be heard?? A very reliable source just let me know... Ok I’m glad I waited because it looks like this is already out there. So not exactly breaking news, but confirmation on something already reported. According to
Footage of Astros looking toward outfield for possible signs:
https://youtu.be/ob-RhXfoPo8 (2017 WS) (Jose Altuve glances away before home run; thanks to u/U_PC_BRO)
https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1195085828910985225?s=20 (2017 WS)(George Springer glances away towards right center, thanks to Jomboy)
https://youtu.be/91YyEVUeO8I (2017 WS) (Springer AB at 5:27:28 shows Springer looked to right center after every pitch; Thanks to u/MsAbsoluteAngel)
Springer glancing towards the home dugout. (2017 ALCS) (Timestamp 2:04:05; or maybe right-center, idk; Thanks to u/m08star)
Altuve glancing to the left. (2017 ALCS)(Thanks to u/m08star)